Response #2 to “Mormons Are Not Christians”
This post about Satan addresses an intentional conflation of two very different ideas by detractors of our faith. But some of you are reinforcing the conflation without meaning to.
If you understand what they are actually claiming and trying to project onto our religion, then the answer to this twisted question is no, we don’t believe that.
They have a popular misleading infographic designed to give a false impression. Jesus and Satan are shown as these two cutie brothers who chum around with their arms around each other and wave at us together. It means to convey that we feel they are equally important or that somehow we esteem Satan.
‘Our Beliefs About Satan’
He is E~vil and vil~E. Period. He is Jesus’s greatest enemy (the accuser). His objective is the opposite of Jesus Christ: to destroy you and me and condemn our souls to hell.
Our scriptures don’t call him a brother of Jesus. And I’ve not heard anyone at church refer to him in that way. Probably because that would be a title of honor. The official description on the Church website:
“Satan, also called the adversary or the devil, is the enemy of all righteousness and of those who seek to follow God. He is a spirit son of God who was once an angel “in authority in the presence of God.”
Isaiah 14:12: “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!”
Our own scriptures talk about him this way:
25 And this we saw also, and bear record, that an angel of God who was in authority in the presence of God, who rebelled against the Only Begotten Son whom the Father loved and who was in the bosom of the Father, was thrust down from the presence of God and the Son”
He was never considered an equal or on par with Christ, and nothing in our scriptures calls him a “brother. of Christ.” It’s not a title or term we use.
26 And was called Perdition, for the heavens wept over him—he was Lucifer, a son of the morning.
27 And we beheld, and lo, he is fallen! is fallen, even a son of the morning! (D&C 76:25-27)
I actually don’t know what a son of the morning is, so I looked it up.
“He is called הֵילֵל בֶּן-שָׁחַר (Helel ben Shachar, Hebrew for “shining one, son of the morning”).
“How you have fallen from heaven, morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! You said in your heart, “I will ascend to the heavens; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of Mount Zaphon. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.” But you are brought down to the realm of the dead, to the depths of the pit. Those who see you stare at you; they ponder your fate: “Is this the man who shook the earth and made kingdoms tremble, the man who made the world a wilderness, who overthrew its cities and would not let his captives go home?” Isaiah 14:12-15 NLT
Revelation talks about him like this:
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. (Revelation 12:7-10)
The scriptures refer to him as
• a son
• accuser of our brethren (who are “our brethren”?)
• he has angels
• a dragon
• he sought to make himself greater than God the Father
So, when you ask me if I think he is the brother of Christ, it depends on what you mean by that term.
>> Do we believe they were born of the same mother and on equal terms? Definitely no and no.
>> Do we think he has some origin with God and was called a son. Yes.
>> He was someone who was important that fell.
>> Do we think he was ever considered Christ’s equal or counterpart? Definitely not.
>> Do we think he is grossly evil, creepy, and vile? Yes.
>> Do we think he is real and harmful? Yes.
We don’t refer to Satan as a brother of Jesus in the scriptures, the temple, or in any official revelation or vision. Probably because it would be a description of honor.
I hope this gives you a much better feel for how we view Satan. Is he technically a brother because he is also called a son of God or a son of the morning? You could say yes, as a technicality, and someone may have pointed that out – but it is a rare observation. I personally never refer to him as the brother of Christ and don’t know of anyone who does. It’s too good of a title for him.
Let me address one thing I see some Latter-day Saint members do, and we all need to be really careful and step back and see the confusion we cause others. This post about Lucifer addresses an intentional conflation of two very different ideas by detractors of our faith. But some of you are reinforcing the conflation without meaning to.
Jesus Christ is the ONLY BEGOTTEN of the Father. He has no brother or sister in this. He is the Eternal God (Book of Mormon) who created worlds without number before He was born. He has no counterpart or equal.
When Christians project that, we say, “Satan is the Brother of Jesus” – this is what they are referring to. Making Satan an equal counterpart to Christ – which is completely in error.
Double-check your own scriptures, temple rites, revelations, and visions by prophets. Do they ever ONCE describe Satan as the brother of Jesus or Jesus as Satan’s brother? There is a very important reason that never happens. That’s a woefully improper title and leaves a false impression. If you feed that, it comes from a lack of insight.
Quit confusing everyone, including yourself. We do not extend Satan that title because he never had an equivalence. Not from ground zero, not ever.
So when you squawk, but, but, but… they are (technically) “brothers,” you are referring to a different concept. You’re referring to the origin of all and God the Father. Lucifer was an angel of importance and denoted as a son (small “s”) of the morning underneath God the Father. That does not qualify him as a Brother of a Begotten. Please correct your thinking and understand that.
Think about it: even though Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and you are a son/daughter of God – you are not equivalent in stature, role, or title. And Lucifer never was either, before his fall. We don’t introduce Jesus when he walks into the room as Satan’s brother. We salute Him as God, as Jehovah. Keep it there.
If the scriptures, prophets, revelations, visions, and temples are not ever referring to Christ as Satan’s brother, there’s a reason. Those are good cues to follow.
I’ve cited several scriptures in this piece; it would be good for you to understand those scriptures. It will help with your perception of doctrine and teachings.
Look at Moses 4 Again
Refer back to Moses 4, as shown in the main picture. Satan never had a stature equal to Christ, and he sought to destroy agency. That is a huge offense and would have been an eternal tragedy for all of us. Please do not overestimate his previous stature compared to Christ, nor underestimate his ability and desire to destroy your stature and obstruct your destiny.
The most you can say is he is a junior brother because he is also under God the Father. Nonetheless, notice that God the Father, Jesus Christ, the scriptures, the temple, and the prophecies never do that. It’s out of respect and also because he rejected and condemned that heritage.